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next category is ghosts and haunted

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places this guest is David omen but

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right this week we have Katrina Cooper

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Walter Brooks thoughts of Christos

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cindy-lou bizarro world Jason bland of

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paranormal soup Howie Odell of the rift

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Darlene Keller Annie Newton Kimberly

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Dominique Steve Foster Rose ALS Jamie

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Sam elusive JJ paranormal Beverly Bonin

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Joshua chairs Great Lakes paranormal

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research team his sister Lisa - glue and

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robert jacobson so tonight we'll be

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talking to David Coleman owner of the

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house on Cielo Drive in Benedict Canyon

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the house is very close proximity to

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where the Sharon Tate JC Frank and

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others were murdered we're gonna heard

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of the Manson murders of course that -

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that the American Indian connection to

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the property it's well featured on and

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countless paranormal TV shows and if it

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has been interviewed countless radio

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programs in the past yeah tonight we

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have them here with us for the second

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time in Pitts reversal universe history

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yeah David are you with us yes

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it's awesome to have you back on it's

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awesome to be on thank you very much for

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having me on again course our pleasure

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I've been excited about this the whole

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entire week yes well well since I've

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been on I think you know it's a bad time

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I came back to pay you guys a visit

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yeah we love your energy we do yeah

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absolutely

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well you're lucky because it's been a

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while since I've been on a lot of stress

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happened but I think we first had to go

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through you know president Xi's and

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introductions to the bio might revive my

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notation of Who I am to the audience

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there you go right it's been a while

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it's been a couple years and you have

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the classic haunted house honestly when

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you come in you go god this place isn't

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hard to plan to say after a few minutes

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people I can go why do I feel like

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there's just there's just energy I said

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yeah I said wait stairs you'll have a

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whole nother sensation about hearing

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energies in my house and what do you

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mean guys let's just say it you tell me

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after you walk and goes okay what's with

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the third levels like it's like what do

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you see it's like well you can say yeah

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okay what's with it it's like well I

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usually told it as a good answer it is

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for yourself there's meaning just just

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go downstairs the stairwell all the way

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the bottom is going see how you like it

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and their way some people come up and

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they say I I didn't go down stairs to

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get to the bottom of the stairs but I

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mean to the I got some fun but I didn't

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open the dressing - it just feels so

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so in tension it's like really Oh

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interesting and it's like I mean it

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happened at my birthday party a couple

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weeks ago on them July I said you know I

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said did you guys really get it because

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yeah we went down ago we got to the door

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and I said they'd be inside the Berlin

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because we don't know we just his door

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was there we put our hands on the door

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we could just feel his intense energy

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enveloped us

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Sydnor alia and they came running

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upstairs and that's what's interesting

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so I mean yeah place has got some

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serious crazy you know tendencies to it

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what is to say it's got some history -

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yes we had um we discussed the history

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of the palace in a bunch of other stuff

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of course we wanted to catch up with you

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this 2014 but before we do that could

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you take a minute and recap with

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everybody anyone who doesn't know who

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you are uh uh who you are and how you

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ended up with this house aren't Cielo

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Drive fascinating yeah in a nutshell my

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dad and I well first of all the the

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proximity of the house is famous because

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the proximity to the Sharon Tate murders

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which is about a hundred and fifty feet

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down the driveway from right have this

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the Reader's Digest abridged version my

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dad in 1998 late 1998 November called me

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up and told me that he found a lot up in

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Beverly Hills so $40,000 on foreclosure

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I ended up driving up there he ended up

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meeting me here

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and I immediately knew where I was I

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said you know that's where the Sharon

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Tate murders took place but the house

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had been torn down in 1994 long ago so I

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was looking at a new new front gate but

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basically I said that's where that

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happened my dad says I don't care this

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piece of real estate I don't give a

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rat's ass what are you thinking I

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generally but oh my god I said it's it's

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because it's a 50 foot wide lot and goes

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down about 150 feet or so that's it I

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said okay so what because there's

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basically it has some problems it says

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it's not buildable but I think there's

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something not right about that I think

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it's worthwhile just investigates

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oriented to find the property and ending

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up clearing up the issue and we don't on

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the property and that's the house I live

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in since I've moved in I've had strange

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things happen here with the paranormal

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and I've been on six panel

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since that in the past ten years I've

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been on ghost hunters my girl's story

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paranormal witness haunted history Ghost

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Adventures Ghost Adventures aftershocks

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in the u.s. in the UK I've been on dead

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famous live and a show called searching

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for Satan also apparently I was also on

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a show in in France that was kind of

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like the I guess it was an empty guest

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type of show this life or something and

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they shot it here at the house dealing

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with the group going to a paranormal or

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a haunted house and they had themselves

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one hell of a time of the stuff here as

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well so it's just it's just a crazy you

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know experience living here to my

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perspective I'm not that fazed by people

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and more like oh my god how do you deal

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with it my god

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we're all gonna die eventually what do

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you guys afraid of your fleet of

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somebody's dead visiting you you should

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begin our strong the happy that they are

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saying low do and not be so fearful I

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said that's what I do it can't

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understand and I said she watched TV and

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would your life on TV fine it's all

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drama and it needs to be because you're

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selling something but in reality it's

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not scary it's not you know it's not

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that big of a deal I mean I see stuff

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happen again okay and then after the

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fourth time you're like wow got anything

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I mean I literally say to them it's like

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good can't anything else besides that I

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think I've seen that for the millionth

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time you know and it's like the cartoons

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it's like after a while you do get jaded

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to stuff I mean the figurines getting

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knocked over okay what else can you do

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Allah Allah

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Andrew Dice Clay you know it's like well

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did knock in the figure wheels over I'm

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impressed

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can you do anything else you know honey

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the be enter [\h__\h] contained that's

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entertaining to a point but you got to

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do it a thousand times I think I

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got the freaking idea of what it means

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for you to do it but think you

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understand in the head I mean looking

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with a trend of water faucet on to me

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two and a half years ago I literally it

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was 12:30 at night

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this is since I've spoken to you guys

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this happened so it's relatively new I'm

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sitting there the bathroom it's 12:30

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I'm sitting out I just grabbed a

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washcloth a face cloth but I figured I

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need it was you know was was dry and I

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can moisten it up and clean house and

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dirt off my tennis shoes so I took the

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cloth I turned on the faucet I turned it

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off i sat down six feet away on the edge

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of the tub and I start painting my shoes

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literally 20 seconds after that always

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suddenly hear the sound and I look up

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and I see the hot and the cold faucets

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turned on and I'm like I smiled I said

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oh yeah I said thank you I said I know

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you'd give that from my friend Adam some

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seven years ago but five years ago I

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said but you did that on the first floor

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bathroom you know while he was taking a

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leak I said I really appreciate you

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doing that it's a that's a new trick but

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I even then said well when are you gonna

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do believe I want to enjoy this you know

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some of this activity if I can see this

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to myself so I said thank you

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I'd really appreciate it I just I said

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I'm tickled pink and I meant it I was

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like that's the bomb guys I said I said

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I do it got a vanity that's the killer

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that's the killer that's the that's the

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cherry on top too so far next to Jay

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appearing some 13 years ago and that's

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Jay Stevens spirit I said that's the

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bomb I said I like that that's a good

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one I said but I said in a serious note

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you know Kelly's going through a

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terrible drought right now and I really

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would appreciate if you would stay away

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from do any more water gags because if

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you're just and I'm not in the room and

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it's on you could end up blog jacking up

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my water Billings and we don't want that

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to happen now do we so

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it's not it's not you know

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environmentally sound to do that so

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please don't I said but anything else do

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you want to try to do please go right

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ahead and do it I said I can't wait to

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see the next trick I said thank you guys

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I turned the faucets off but that's how

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I treated people like you wet that's

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like I'm like yeah that's what I feel I

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feel like hey you know I feel like god

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damn it finally did it for me you know

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that time really how many people could

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say they're comfortable living with

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their goats it's not like that let's be

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honest enough my ghosts their dose

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didn't even desert it's like I consider

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myself kind of like a ghost hostel the

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the man who's on top of a ghost hostel

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basically taking care of the house and

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the girls just a minute now it might all

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know who what where when and why until

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something happens that I'm aware about

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specific spirits you know presence but

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that's the thing when people come to the

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house they bring people with them so to

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speak when people walk in there's a

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cadre of spirits I believe again this is

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my theory and there's something I want

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to save that things I've become very

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bold in my statements about this but

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it's true I believe this convincingly

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paranormal the whole [\h__\h] field is

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theoretical there is not one single

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individual can lay claim to bear being

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an expert in the field and that's

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because how can you become an expert in

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a field that is so clearly undefined and

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unexplored and unspecified and that you

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can say you have a degree a degree from

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what 15 University that's accredited

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therefore to give a degree in the

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paranormal and I'm not saying this to be

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hypocritical or to be bitter or to be

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like a pisser

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I'm just conveying what I think Harry

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Houdini believes way back 100 years ago

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which is

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apparently there's reason to believe in

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the paranormal but there's no reason to

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believe that anybody has gotten the

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whole handle on the paranormal one can

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lay claim to the title of being a

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paranormal expert you can have

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experiences up the wazoo that don't make

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you an expert that's like I am expertise

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banking new house like this I go to the

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bank every day and I watch bankers work

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oh really that's interesting I don't

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think I could say that in any other

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field but the paranormal when you think

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about it and one thing is is that people

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up there want to lay claim to theory and

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stuff it's like you can have a helium

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they coined of that but you can't you're

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listening to love advice with Leanne

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caller you're on the air

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hi Leanne longtime listener first-time

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caller why in your professional opinion

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do you never take my calls off the air

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is this carleeee yep it's Carl I mean we

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had a few dates everything was great I

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thought well you know when you switch to

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Geico you could save a lot of money on

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car insurance

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okay awesome you should call them I will

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Geico

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because saving 15% or more on car

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insurance is always a great answer

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because I'd be a scientific bonus that

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you can't prove because plane almost

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exactly that it's not scientifically

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found you can do certain things but you

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can't replicate the same findings and

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multiple locations and come up with the

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same exact as you say findings and

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results you're right you can't quantify

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it

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mean locations and use those as

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laboratories you can't replicate the

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same findings at a location to be

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location to see location the D location

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which we didn't itself be a scientific

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premise but you've heard my point is

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that when I have people came here they

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lay claim to stuff and it's like look

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I'll be the first to tell you I know

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when I know that has lived that a

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paranormal environment such as this for

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15 years and I've been working on

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between a half hour that building it

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so that I don't quite lay claim to it

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but I'll certainly tell you this a lot

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of people who does haqqin haqqa type

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theories are hockey pucks themselves

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because I can tell you some of those

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theories are so far-fetched that I can

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certainly apply them to this house and

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say well that doesn't work that doesn't

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work that doesn't work and I find it

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really absurd what people say no it's

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it's it's a demon it's like really

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really because you can't understand it

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because it cursed you out could it be

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that it's it's a personal thing between

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you and that entity of that spirit that

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they just don't like it I'm calling you

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out as a fraud I did you know I mean zak

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bagans is an example he got twisted arms

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when he left here after three hours of

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his six hour lockdown and I don't care

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what's on that goddamn show of his and

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like my episode I 1 o'clock a.m. on

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September 4th or 5th I do believe it was

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four years ago they left this house they

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ran out of this house because a Thursday

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night as I recall so if you go back was

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the fourth of the fifth and they ran out

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of here after three hours I said what's

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and I goes we have enough information we

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have enough evidence we gotta get out of

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here we're done and then everything on

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that show with a guy's done time cut is

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totally bogus yeah it's early it's a

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really violent investigation you know of

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course because this house is really

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haunted and the spirits that they had

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around them and plus all the attachments

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that they've gathered in there in a

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knapsack of tricks from all these

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different places where spirits basically

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hit this environment as I have explained

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it to other people the analogy is this

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is very kappa'd refer to to refer to it

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this house has existing DC EMF levels

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that are upwards of four to five

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thousand milligrams positive and

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negative when a spirit manifests

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according to Barry a spirit will measure

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you know peak at that type of you know

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the environment will peak in 2000 plus

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nu a Gauss and then return to normal

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which is between three and five hundred

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milligauss in this house it's

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always elevated to four to five thousand

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million I was positive to negative in

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certain parts so what you've got is an

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environment as he said the way her

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spirit would come in and it could just

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manifest much more easily and I took it

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one step further and said here's an

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analogy you're taking a reptile a

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cold-blooded animal and you put it from

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a cold environment you bring it in it's

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sluggish you bring it into a warm

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environment where it's eighty some are

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degrees in the Sun and they can start to

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drive its energy off of the energy in

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the air and then the Sun that's they're

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peeking down on it it can then become

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active voila

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the same analogy holds true for spirits

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when we took this environment and what

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happens with them when they come in and

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it's not just you know people say oh I

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want to see Sharon Tate it's like well

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you're probably gonna have an

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interaction with somebody that you knew

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that was alive a relative a friend a

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family member whatever that's going to

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come back and visit you versus somebody

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that you never knew that's a distant you

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know on memory and the thought of

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somebody who you're really fascinated

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with an infatuated with who never knew

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you and has no direct connection to you

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in this house so it's a vortex in a

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portal as Barry said because this is the

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Mount Everest of haunted houses and the

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Disneyland for the dead and so there's

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the real scoop on my house in a nutshell

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that's awesome yeah

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we have a question for you from the

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chatter what conclusions have you

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reached about the nature of the

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paranormal in general well through this

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list if anything you watch on

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televisions or ass dome is basically

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hyping a drama based and it's got to be

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because it has to keep you on the edge

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of your seat in their minds it needs to

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be that way because they're selling

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commodities they're selling these

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products and you're watching and keep

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you in that involved in that show that

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movie it's all fear-based

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the reality as I said we're all gonna

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die at some point so to be afraid of

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something that takes place in our future

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is almost futile and stupid and dumb and

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believe

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you can't escape God and furthermore

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those who say they've been deadly come

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back I err on the side of the ancient

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Greeks and the old prophecies and world

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stories and mythologies about the river

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of Styx and Hades on one side and the

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living on the other and the old stone

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goes is once you cross the river Styx

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and enter Hades which is the afterlife

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my hell there is no return so I don't

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believe that anybody that claims that

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they've been they know this and that

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it's it's a little bit far-fetched what

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I've heard some people like Marion

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winkowski the actual real-life Ghost

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Whisperer and other mediums that have

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been here that have said you know well

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can you get sharing to the other side

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that she goes Marianna Mankowski

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famously said which goes gems here

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because she has unfinished business and

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there's nothing I can do to get her on

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to the other side and my belief is that

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since we're humans it's the greatest and

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oldest question which will never go

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answered because we'll never know that

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that's when you died that's anybody

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thoughts that I don't have to talk with

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the spirits in general I have stuff that

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happens all the time it's like okay I

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see it I acknowledge it and I say okay

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sprays you guys who are saving me if you

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use your matter of testing do you want

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let me know what it is you're

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manifesting for do you want to

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communicate something with me I'm very

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curious I I say there's three approaches

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to any situation

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stupid approach fearful approach and the

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curious approach stupid approach would

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be going up to something and just trying

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to be here in like a porcupine and

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sticking your hands right into it and

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finding out that it's got sharp prickly

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quills and that you've got you know it's

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close in your hand and you got holes in

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you and you're bleeding careful approach

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would be oh my god it's a pork it's an

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animal I don't understand it looks scary

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it's going to attack me it's going to

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hurt me give me a stick I'm going to

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beat it to death and that way it's dead

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and then I can deal with whatever

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happens afterwards afterwards but at

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least act irrationally and out of my

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head

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and I'm going to have a problem with it

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and oh my god I'm gonna kill him and

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then I'll ask questions later

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curious approach oh wow what the hell is

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that Wow

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that is the craziest looking creature

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I've ever seen now I'm going to keep my

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distance because those those those

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prickly close look a little little

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dangerous if they got in contact with

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your flesh so I'm gonna give it respect

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and respect its face and I'm gonna just

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watch what it does and see if it acts

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aggressively and if it does I'm gonna

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run the hell away slowly and cautiously

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because I don't want to discharge

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thinking that I'm a prey item because I

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don't know if it's Liveris herbivorous

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or if it's a carnivorous animal so I'm

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going to pay attention to what's going

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on I'm gonna be the steps won't be

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curious about it and ask questions not

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lose my [\h__\h] local react and behave in a

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way that would be irrational

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perranoski alleviates the fear exactly

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and it could keep you can deal with

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things rationally when you're tall

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like Kevin and I like to say a lot of

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times we are spiritual beings having a

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human existence honestly that's got to

538
00:24:26,730 --> 00:24:23,620
be the most truthful honest statement

539
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:26,740
for people don't realise because you

540
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:29,890
live maybe zero hundred fifteen years on

541
00:24:32,780 --> 00:24:32,050
this planet out if they make you give

542
00:24:36,390 --> 00:24:32,790
you a bite

543
00:24:40,070 --> 00:24:36,400
225 130 whatever if that so you're gonna

544
00:24:44,790 --> 00:24:40,080
die well where do you spend the other

545
00:24:47,130 --> 00:24:44,800
99.9% of your existence as spirit on the

546
00:24:49,170 --> 00:24:47,140
other side and I'm talking about heaven

547
00:24:50,910 --> 00:24:49,180
or hell even like what you do here and

548
00:24:52,980 --> 00:24:50,920
I'm talking of the spiritual sense not a

549
00:24:54,360 --> 00:24:52,990
not a religious sense that you know

550
00:24:56,010 --> 00:24:54,370
you're going to go to hell because what

551
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:56,020
you do whatever you do and how do you

552
00:25:00,510 --> 00:24:57,610
treat people on this plane of existence

553
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:00,520
I believe in a karmic sense somehow does

554
00:25:08,390 --> 00:25:03,010
have an a bearing on way how you end up

555
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:14,300
if my visit to my house four years ago

556
00:25:19,620 --> 00:25:19,330
was any insight into what's it going to

557
00:25:21,870 --> 00:25:19,630
be

558
00:25:28,410 --> 00:25:21,880
like when you pass away man whenever

559
00:25:30,690 --> 00:25:28,420
that day comes your ass is gonna feel

560
00:25:34,130 --> 00:25:30,700
suicidal for the rest of eternity from I

561
00:25:38,580 --> 00:25:34,140
understand from there to pains yeah so I

562
00:25:41,660 --> 00:25:38,590
you have how many anomalous photos has

563
00:25:45,330 --> 00:25:41,670
been taken in your fame hundreds

564
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:45,340
hundreds there and that's how videos you

565
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:49,210
have videos we have EDPs on videos we

566
00:25:54,750 --> 00:25:52,570
have EVPs on you know just recording

567
00:25:57,450 --> 00:25:54,760
devices we have EVPs that are both on

568
00:25:59,160 --> 00:25:57,460
recording devices and I'm not talking

569
00:26:01,650 --> 00:25:59,170
about Frank's boxes when I said

570
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:01,660
recording devices I mean just a digital

571
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:04,450
recorder I don't ascribe to any and I

572
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:06,730
don't post any EVPs that are quote

573
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:09,610
unquote what are they called class two

574
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:12,250
class three EVPs on Frank's box

575
00:26:16,380 --> 00:26:14,410
I'm sorry I put a lot of faith in them

576
00:26:18,420 --> 00:26:16,390
even if you get a round of the name and

577
00:26:20,700 --> 00:26:18,430
say oh my god sets person's name or you

578
00:26:25,580 --> 00:26:20,710
get gibberish and you read it to it

579
00:26:28,740 --> 00:26:25,590
I have EVPs on my on video recorders on

580
00:26:31,110 --> 00:26:28,750
tape recorders on digital recorders on

581
00:26:33,870 --> 00:26:31,120
circuit television camera audio

582
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:33,880
components then all and we are bosses

583
00:26:38,910 --> 00:26:36,010
with reploid rate we have EVPs on a

584
00:26:41,940 --> 00:26:38,920
digital recorder and also closed-circuit

585
00:26:44,780 --> 00:26:41,950
television camera as well same EVP Pluto

586
00:26:48,120 --> 00:26:44,790
as a bell with a person saying hello

587
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:48,130
what are you doing in my bedroom yeah as

588
00:26:52,830 --> 00:26:50,530
a matter of fact she's Christ's sake why

589
00:26:55,830 --> 00:26:52,840
don't I do this for you guys why don't I

590
00:26:58,620 --> 00:26:55,840
pull up some of those EVPs and let you

591
00:27:00,690 --> 00:26:58,630
guys hear them for yourselves since you

592
00:27:03,870 --> 00:27:00,700
can't see anything amazing what you hear

593
00:27:06,270 --> 00:27:03,880
something good yeah we couldn't do it at

594
00:27:08,220 --> 00:27:06,280
least we're EVP before a break all right

595
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:08,230
here this will be a quick one and this

596
00:27:14,580 --> 00:27:10,450
will actually be done on my birth my bed

597
00:27:20,900 --> 00:27:14,590
my a third level guest bedroom on yeah

598
00:27:27,270 --> 00:27:20,910
hold on one second is this any way

599
00:27:29,580 --> 00:27:27,280
they'd listen to this my first bullfight

600
00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:29,590
friends decided for downstairs to the

601
00:27:36,630 --> 00:27:33,370
bedroom and do a that

602
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:36,640
those I said have a party going on this

603
00:27:45,450 --> 00:27:40,330
is July 20 2016 so my friend Tim rose

604
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:45,460
his wife and and Christina leis and her

605
00:27:52,620 --> 00:27:50,290
husband just went down there and be this

606
00:27:57,780 --> 00:27:52,630
is the reporting for their digital

607
00:28:04,970 --> 00:27:57,790
recorder it's okay cause it's okay don't

608
00:28:17,820 --> 00:28:15,750
video at i/o and that's on the digital

609
00:28:20,610 --> 00:28:17,830
recorder we have the same exact voice at

610
00:28:23,220 --> 00:28:20,620
the same time recorded on the

611
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:23,230
closed-circuit television camera would

612
00:28:33,570 --> 00:28:26,250
you which is on my youtube channel no

613
00:28:36,930 --> 00:28:33,580
awesome you can see it exist it says

614
00:28:38,610 --> 00:28:36,940
July 3rd 2016 my birthday and at first I

615
00:28:39,510 --> 00:28:38,620
was like oh god that spirits being a

616
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:39,520
real [\h__\h]

617
00:28:45,060 --> 00:28:42,010
he thinks it's a drum and I said wait a

618
00:28:47,490 --> 00:28:45,070
second again it's all about perception I

619
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:47,500
said wait a second maybe he's in Cline's

620
00:28:50,669 --> 00:28:49,450
like what are you doing my bedroom why

621
00:28:53,100 --> 00:28:50,679
are the hell you not have stairs in

622
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:53,110
David's party how rude of you how does

623
00:28:56,820 --> 00:28:55,330
facebook you'd be in my bedroom from

624
00:28:59,250 --> 00:28:56,830
this we have stairs at the party you

625
00:29:02,120 --> 00:28:59,260
know you should be upstairs party with

626
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:02,130
David not being down here looking for me

627
00:29:10,230 --> 00:29:05,410
yeah that is a good EVP and you can hear

628
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:10,240
that so clear Wow oh and um okay folks

629
00:29:15,630 --> 00:29:12,690
it's time for our first commercial break

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like aid and we have two group page it's

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mysteries and lick monsters finally

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ultimate conspiracies it's just pretty

656
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much self-explanatory okay keep your

657
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eyes closed okay I want to show you my

658
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first ever painting alright okay open

659
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your eyes

660
00:30:43,990 --> 00:30:41,150
oh that's a lot of colors and shades oh

661
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v honest what do you think well uh I

662
00:30:47,770 --> 00:30:46,400
like how if you switch to Geico you

663
00:30:48,250 --> 00:30:47,780
could save hundreds of dollars on car

664
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insurance

665
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:51,530
oh yeah that's that's true yeah here why

666
00:30:56,620 --> 00:30:53,810
don't I hold your paintbrush while you

667
00:30:58,540 --> 00:30:56,630
call them Geico because saving 15% or

668
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more on car insurance is always a great

669
00:31:04,810 --> 00:31:01,760
answer if you have any questions for our

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Jennie will pass those along next week

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00:31:17,670 --> 00:31:13,670
we will be talking to a hypnotherapist

675
00:31:21,220 --> 00:31:17,680
and parapsychologist Peter Havilland

676
00:31:24,610 --> 00:31:21,230
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back our guests yep give it you with us

678
00:31:34,460 --> 00:31:30,680
Oh Bob with you awesome so you have

679
00:31:48,590 --> 00:31:36,740
he okay give me two shakes of a lamb's

680
00:31:50,330 --> 00:31:48,600
tail I let's go to the poltergeist and

681
00:31:57,649 --> 00:31:50,340
I'm gonna bring up something that was

682
00:31:59,539 --> 00:31:57,659
shot here a couple of um was a couple

683
00:32:00,110 --> 00:31:59,549
years ago now I'm gonna have to go to

684
00:32:03,590 --> 00:32:00,120
work

685
00:32:07,029 --> 00:32:03,600
YouTube the published puppy up and the

686
00:32:11,419 --> 00:32:07,039
energy to go it was during the

687
00:32:13,340 --> 00:32:11,429
poltergeist DVD blu-ray early house and

688
00:32:16,100 --> 00:32:13,350
what's interesting is is they just

689
00:32:18,620 --> 00:32:16,110
basically deconstructed the guest

690
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:18,630
bedroom in the third level and turned it

691
00:32:25,460 --> 00:32:23,090
into a little growth room and it was

692
00:32:28,070 --> 00:32:25,470
strangely effective because the whole

693
00:32:29,770 --> 00:32:28,080
room looked like it looked like the

694
00:32:32,690 --> 00:32:29,780
girls little girls with a six year old

695
00:32:35,690 --> 00:32:32,700
77 year old doors room they pulled out

696
00:32:40,700 --> 00:32:35,700
all the furniture let's just say that we

697
00:32:42,529 --> 00:32:40,710
had a spirit that visited us that Lister

698
00:32:43,270 --> 00:32:42,539
says who a girl that I've never seen

699
00:32:47,210 --> 00:32:43,280
before

700
00:32:49,610 --> 00:32:47,220
and yes and I think it's important to

701
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:49,620
also try to find scientific proof using

702
00:32:56,299 --> 00:32:52,530
the scientific method otherwise skeptics

703
00:32:59,899 --> 00:32:56,309
say the proof is not valid sure I I

704
00:33:01,970 --> 00:32:59,909
agree no no don't get me wrong I believe

705
00:33:04,190 --> 00:33:01,980
that when you do an investigation and

706
00:33:07,610 --> 00:33:04,200
people hate me for this because what I

707
00:33:10,669 --> 00:33:07,620
did several years ago is is about 12

708
00:33:12,799 --> 00:33:10,679
years ago now I brought in eight second

709
00:33:15,919 --> 00:33:12,809
or seven psychics Yam one night and one

710
00:33:16,940 --> 00:33:15,929
another I made sure that they didn't

711
00:33:18,950 --> 00:33:16,950
know where they were going

712
00:33:23,930 --> 00:33:18,960
I made sure that they were kept in the

713
00:33:26,180 --> 00:33:23,940
dark have you ever investigated in

714
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:26,190
historic locations especially things

715
00:33:33,380 --> 00:33:28,650
like sites of less famous or obscure

716
00:33:38,299 --> 00:33:33,390
battles etc yes I've also been getting

717
00:33:41,450 --> 00:33:38,309
to why was he telling Tina Cohen got in

718
00:33:43,490 --> 00:33:41,460
Mexico City to the actual Aztecs to

719
00:33:45,139 --> 00:33:43,500
where the mine they Jesse's a Mayan or

720
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:45,149
Aztec so together each one of the temple

721
00:33:49,570 --> 00:33:46,970
was the top of the temple

722
00:33:52,390 --> 00:33:49,580
in Mexico City will you go up today and

723
00:33:54,700 --> 00:33:52,400
this is this is back in 1976 when I was

724
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:54,710
a kid I went up there to the very top

725
00:33:57,970 --> 00:33:56,090
but they actually have the room and the

726
00:34:00,130 --> 00:33:57,980
ceremonial room and stuff and I'm

727
00:34:04,180 --> 00:34:00,140
telling you let's be asked here

728
00:34:08,050 --> 00:34:04,190
most places 99% of the world is haunted

729
00:34:10,390 --> 00:34:08,060
and what I mean is is spirits are just

730
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:10,400
energies as people who have died and

731
00:34:16,390 --> 00:34:13,610
passed away and those energies hang

732
00:34:18,310 --> 00:34:16,400
around places where they used to live we

733
00:34:21,100 --> 00:34:18,320
used to play whether you used to fight

734
00:34:23,110 --> 00:34:21,110
with used to work not what he used to

735
00:34:25,060 --> 00:34:23,120
die and I'll talk about cemeteries the

736
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:25,070
only place these in the cemetery haunt

737
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:27,650
is because mourners that went to the

738
00:34:31,870 --> 00:34:30,650
cemetery to mourn the dead never let go

739
00:34:34,060 --> 00:34:31,880
of the dead like that woman that was

740
00:34:36,570 --> 00:34:34,070
always seeing Valentina's grade putting

741
00:34:38,890 --> 00:34:36,580
a rose on the anniversary of his death

742
00:34:40,780 --> 00:34:38,900
was like the type of person somebody's

743
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:40,790
obsessed something my visits to grave

744
00:34:46,750 --> 00:34:44,210
while they were alive not the repository

745
00:34:48,370 --> 00:34:46,760
of the dead because think of it how cool

746
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:48,380
would it be if the spirit had to hang

747
00:34:54,670 --> 00:34:51,410
out and get a scar on his gravesite

748
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:54,680
watching his corpse to decay and this

749
00:35:00,010 --> 00:34:57,650
decompose what kind of an eternal hell

750
00:35:01,240 --> 00:35:00,020
would that be and then what that's your

751
00:35:04,270 --> 00:35:01,250
eternity you're like a ball and chain

752
00:35:06,310 --> 00:35:04,280
you're attached to that location where

753
00:35:10,150 --> 00:35:06,320
your body is it's not the way it is when

754
00:35:12,670 --> 00:35:10,160
your body when you die just so separates

755
00:35:15,580 --> 00:35:12,680
the second that happens that's death

756
00:35:19,540 --> 00:35:15,590
baby the body gets cut it off to the

757
00:35:22,210 --> 00:35:19,550
morgue to the repository what ever the

758
00:35:24,100 --> 00:35:22,220
soul is far gone the soldiers who didn't

759
00:35:26,860 --> 00:35:24,110
sit down like well I'm gonna be watching

760
00:35:28,390 --> 00:35:26,870
my body be cremated oh [\h__\h] now what

761
00:35:30,070 --> 00:35:28,400
happens to the porcelains lips it's

762
00:35:31,540 --> 00:35:30,080
cremated does that mean you're gonna sit

763
00:35:34,060 --> 00:35:31,550
there and watch yourself to be burned

764
00:35:38,940 --> 00:35:34,070
and have to feel that I don't think so

765
00:35:41,290 --> 00:35:38,950
or see that no it's just man-made meant

766
00:35:43,990 --> 00:35:41,300
because that's all you got for the most

767
00:35:46,500 --> 00:35:44,000
part man has to make up stories and then

768
00:35:50,580 --> 00:35:46,510
the stories become you know become

769
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:50,590
legends and become myths and become

770
00:35:54,310 --> 00:35:51,770
attributable

771
00:35:57,550 --> 00:35:54,320
points of reference in the paranormal

772
00:36:00,060 --> 00:35:57,560
field which they're not I'm sorry to say

773
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:00,070
some things are anecdotal

774
00:36:03,930 --> 00:36:02,530
whether stories are told and he spirits

775
00:36:05,700 --> 00:36:03,940
is because it's supposed to scare people

776
00:36:08,970 --> 00:36:05,710
and teach them a lesson

777
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:08,980
kinda like the Bible is for lesson

778
00:36:14,580 --> 00:36:12,610
learning that Lipton wrote this but not

779
00:36:16,290 --> 00:36:14,590
another second in the Bible and all that

780
00:36:17,100 --> 00:36:16,300
stuff but the price is to teach you a

781
00:36:19,530 --> 00:36:17,110
lesson

782
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:19,540
I think Aesop's fables when fables to

783
00:36:23,490 --> 00:36:21,370
teach you a lesson not about the

784
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:23,500
specifics of what was going on but the

785
00:36:27,210 --> 00:36:25,210
same your own way learn from this

786
00:36:32,700 --> 00:36:27,220
anecdote and understand how it relates

787
00:36:37,410 --> 00:36:32,710
to you in your life questions isolate

788
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:37,420
them I still believe in the story about

789
00:36:43,260 --> 00:36:39,130
the it was at the ant and the

790
00:36:48,090 --> 00:36:43,270
grasshopper and then of course the the

791
00:36:51,330 --> 00:36:48,100
Scorpion on the back of the turtle you

792
00:36:53,130 --> 00:36:51,340
know it's not my character well this is

793
00:36:57,180 --> 00:36:53,140
my character this thing is so I will die

794
00:37:00,450 --> 00:36:57,190
in fact in spite of my character in any

795
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:00,460
of that so any questions that I looked

796
00:37:07,860 --> 00:37:05,010
at well let's see

797
00:37:10,140 --> 00:37:07,870
at the moment no and this will give us

798
00:37:13,350 --> 00:37:10,150
an opportunity to talk about the tour

799
00:37:15,990 --> 00:37:13,360
you guys coming out yes there's now yeah

800
00:37:18,890 --> 00:37:16,000
do houses and we've never talked to you

801
00:37:22,380 --> 00:37:18,900
about the other hosts or the property

802
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:22,390
outside from Europe building yeah I know

803
00:37:26,790 --> 00:37:25,090
dad I've never done it before I never

804
00:37:29,730 --> 00:37:26,800
had the opportunity and it just kind of

805
00:37:33,630 --> 00:37:29,740
came up that my neighbors gonna be we

806
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:33,640
having his home and it's like wow um

807
00:37:36,390 --> 00:37:36,010
well a rented out to if you want

808
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:36,400
subscribe

809
00:37:42,180 --> 00:37:38,290
oh well then tada cuz I'm renting it out

810
00:37:48,750 --> 00:37:42,190
for a couple of nights and that'll be on

811
00:37:50,370 --> 00:37:48,760
Friday 13th there should be a thumb I'm

812
00:37:54,720 --> 00:37:50,380
looking forward to it because we did it

813
00:37:57,240 --> 00:37:54,730
four weeks ago and it was crazy I mean

814
00:38:01,350 --> 00:37:57,250
it was nuts it was off the charts crazy

815
00:38:05,700 --> 00:38:01,360
nuts the house just it didn't disappoint

816
00:38:08,100 --> 00:38:05,710
it was nuts and it was crazy too the

817
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:08,110
house was just the house next I went I

818
00:38:10,820 --> 00:38:09,970
was like when I went in at 3 o'clock it

819
00:38:13,530 --> 00:38:10,830
was heavy

820
00:38:16,910 --> 00:38:13,540
and it was I'd like a feeling

821
00:38:21,450 --> 00:38:16,920
terribly heavy big felt energy right and

822
00:38:23,100 --> 00:38:21,460
all I know is we were on and we went

823
00:38:26,690 --> 00:38:23,110
down there when I'm through thousands

824
00:38:30,240 --> 00:38:26,700
like oh boy tonight's gonna be crazy and

825
00:38:32,370 --> 00:38:30,250
it turned out to be crazier than the

826
00:38:35,930 --> 00:38:32,380
gosh-darn cat in the Hot Tin Roof and

827
00:38:38,850 --> 00:38:35,940
Tennessee would look [\h__\h] it was nuts

828
00:38:40,470 --> 00:38:38,860
we had three people go in there and I

829
00:38:43,020 --> 00:38:40,480
went in there after people got in there

830
00:38:45,300 --> 00:38:43,030
what I've noticed is is the reason why

831
00:38:47,730 --> 00:38:45,310
my house reacts the way it does when

832
00:38:50,340 --> 00:38:47,740
people come in and it becomes actively

833
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:50,350
more paranormally active is because you

834
00:38:54,720 --> 00:38:53,410
have cleaner a great amount of people 20

835
00:38:57,240 --> 00:38:54,730
people that are all searching for

836
00:38:59,400 --> 00:38:57,250
spirits and then I'm focusing their

837
00:39:01,440 --> 00:38:59,410
energy so it's bringing out these the

838
00:39:03,180 --> 00:39:01,450
spirits that they brought in and the

839
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:03,190
spirits that are around them and then

840
00:39:08,130 --> 00:39:04,690
the spirits that are already here and

841
00:39:10,770 --> 00:39:08,140
it's like how does it like adds fuel and

842
00:39:13,620 --> 00:39:10,780
octane to a flaming raging you know

843
00:39:17,340 --> 00:39:13,630
muscle car a funny car and it just gives

844
00:39:20,070 --> 00:39:17,350
it a lot of gas and next door was a

845
00:39:21,630 --> 00:39:20,080
complete example of that when there were

846
00:39:23,820 --> 00:39:21,640
three or four of us when the three or

847
00:39:26,130 --> 00:39:23,830
four VIPs got there early three four

848
00:39:30,930 --> 00:39:26,140
o'clock and it was light when we went

849
00:39:33,780 --> 00:39:30,940
down there it was it was it we could

850
00:39:36,540 --> 00:39:33,790
feel it yeah when we went in there at

851
00:39:39,630 --> 00:39:36,550
about eight nine ten o'clock it was

852
00:39:42,090 --> 00:39:39,640
almost depressing the energy and people

853
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:42,100
are saying oh my god it's so heavy and

854
00:39:47,510 --> 00:39:43,690
I'm like I walked and I said what the

855
00:39:50,970 --> 00:39:47,520
[\h__\h] I got what I said holy Sh

856
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:50,980
it's it's charged I said it is so

857
00:39:56,340 --> 00:39:53,650
charged I said no I don't need to be in

858
00:39:58,170 --> 00:39:56,350
here I goes I said I think I can be in

859
00:39:59,850 --> 00:39:58,180
about ten minutes and I'm having enough

860
00:40:01,740 --> 00:39:59,860
time I think I've had enough I think we

861
00:40:03,180 --> 00:40:01,750
can get out of here now and I'm out of

862
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:03,190
here I'm leaving here I don't really

863
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:05,410
want to be in here anymore and I just

864
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:09,490
basically got out of there and there

865
00:40:13,500 --> 00:40:10,690
were people that were telling me they

866
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:13,510
were seeing dark shadows walking around

867
00:40:18,900 --> 00:40:16,570
I say yeah that's that's that's my bird

868
00:40:20,670 --> 00:40:18,910
and they went into this one part of the

869
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:20,680
house it's like my earth and war room

870
00:40:26,799 --> 00:40:23,890
and they were getting EVPs I'm on the

871
00:40:28,539 --> 00:40:26,809
mobster on the mobster

872
00:40:30,909 --> 00:40:28,549
and at first it kept on saying it says

873
00:40:33,909 --> 00:40:30,919
I'm the monster I'm the monster Cygnet

874
00:40:38,499 --> 00:40:33,919
enough it's saying I'm the mobster

875
00:40:40,809 --> 00:40:38,509
I'm the mobster and I thought oh my god

876
00:40:43,390 --> 00:40:40,819
said who the hell knows would stay here

877
00:40:44,919 --> 00:40:43,400
and you know after people moved up that

878
00:40:46,659 --> 00:40:44,929
there could have been the mafioso or

879
00:40:49,390 --> 00:40:46,669
just AM obvious in the neighborhood

880
00:40:51,549 --> 00:40:49,400
because there was a mafia hit across the

881
00:40:53,529 --> 00:40:51,559
canyon at a house that's around the

882
00:40:56,469 --> 00:40:53,539
corner from here so they don't oh my god

883
00:40:59,169 --> 00:40:56,479
that's what he was I'm the mobster I'm

884
00:41:01,029 --> 00:40:59,179
the mobster then they were going to the

885
00:41:04,269 --> 00:41:01,039
newly developed third floor on the house

886
00:41:06,749 --> 00:41:04,279
next door and they were saying oh my god

887
00:41:09,729 --> 00:41:06,759
tainted the energy on that floor is

888
00:41:11,679 --> 00:41:09,739
cockeyed I said what do you mean it just

889
00:41:14,109 --> 00:41:11,689
feels more intense than the top two

890
00:41:16,149 --> 00:41:14,119
floors the original floors because it's

891
00:41:20,589 --> 00:41:16,159
kind of like you're a third level except

892
00:41:22,029 --> 00:41:20,599
it's much more what it does so they

893
00:41:23,709 --> 00:41:22,039
would look at my house they say your

894
00:41:26,049 --> 00:41:23,719
house is light this house has definitely

895
00:41:27,459 --> 00:41:26,059
got a lot of dark energy in it and I

896
00:41:29,499 --> 00:41:27,469
said really go so yeah I said but

897
00:41:31,149 --> 00:41:29,509
they're both heavily active but your

898
00:41:33,009 --> 00:41:31,159
house is much more light energy it's

899
00:41:35,049 --> 00:41:33,019
easy to deal with your house the energy

900
00:41:38,069 --> 00:41:35,059
in this house is just heavy and it's

901
00:41:41,169 --> 00:41:38,079
just just really oppressive and intense

902
00:41:43,059 --> 00:41:41,179
and I was like good and we had a seance

903
00:41:45,999 --> 00:41:43,069
in each house may had stuff going on

904
00:41:49,149 --> 00:41:46,009
during the seances and had activity that

905
00:41:52,779 --> 00:41:49,159
they recorded and we have 16 cameras in

906
00:41:56,439 --> 00:41:52,789
my house the 15 megapixel 1080p with

907
00:41:58,679 --> 00:41:56,449
infrared lights and microphones and in

908
00:42:02,469 --> 00:41:58,689
the house next door we have six cameras

909
00:42:04,809 --> 00:42:02,479
five with age with microphones and one

910
00:42:08,199 --> 00:42:04,819
without but all few Megas megapixel of

911
00:42:11,229 --> 00:42:08,209
10 ATP's and what we have in the garage

912
00:42:13,179 --> 00:42:11,239
is we have this pulldown screen so you

913
00:42:16,749 --> 00:42:13,189
can watch what's going on in the

914
00:42:18,399 --> 00:42:16,759
headquarters I guess you call the base

915
00:42:21,789 --> 00:42:18,409
of operations where you can watch it on

916
00:42:23,769 --> 00:42:21,799
the 84 inch screen and watch the cameras

917
00:42:28,390 --> 00:42:23,779
or you can watch it on the 50 inch

918
00:42:31,329 --> 00:42:28,400
monitor we have upstairs it's going on

919
00:42:33,299 --> 00:42:31,339
for two hours and it's seven hours made

920
00:42:35,979 --> 00:42:33,309
in the evening to 3:00 in the morning

921
00:42:38,019 --> 00:42:35,989
and it's a hundred and five bucks

922
00:42:39,820 --> 00:42:38,029
including all its food all includes

923
00:42:41,470 --> 00:42:39,830
everything we have a post

924
00:42:44,110 --> 00:42:41,480
the food that keeps on being replenished

925
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:44,120
the whole night long including meatballs

926
00:42:52,050 --> 00:42:49,130
mini tacos hummus and pita bread celery

927
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:52,060
and baby carrots and ranch dressing

928
00:43:00,810 --> 00:42:56,690
artichoke spinach artichoke dip crackers

929
00:43:03,430 --> 00:43:00,820
cheese three different types of recall

930
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:03,440
there's some things like chocolate chip

931
00:43:08,620 --> 00:43:06,410
cookies no white no white chocolate chip

932
00:43:12,220 --> 00:43:08,630
cookies with macadamia nuts and oatmeal

933
00:43:15,610 --> 00:43:12,230
raisin and also drinks up the wazoo so

934
00:43:17,110 --> 00:43:15,620
you have coca-cola 7up water orange

935
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:17,120
juice and cranberry juice

936
00:43:20,860 --> 00:43:18,890
so you're never too lost with food and

937
00:43:22,810 --> 00:43:20,870
plenty of ghosts and take your picture

938
00:43:26,620 --> 00:43:22,820
we have free Wi-Fi so you can stream

939
00:43:28,750 --> 00:43:26,630
video from the house it's a blast

940
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:28,760
what can I say it's and plus we have the

941
00:43:32,860 --> 00:43:31,490
overnight VIP packages which are two

942
00:43:35,620 --> 00:43:32,870
hundred and twenty-five dollars which

943
00:43:38,740 --> 00:43:35,630
are 24 hours there and includes a full

944
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:38,750
full BBQ baby back rib and chicken

945
00:43:43,870 --> 00:43:41,450
dinner and all the fixings and then

946
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:43,880
includes the t-shirt and includes a full

947
00:43:48,340 --> 00:43:46,370
brunch the following day includes a

948
00:43:51,310 --> 00:43:48,350
screening of the movie includes a

949
00:43:53,410 --> 00:43:51,320
souvenir poster a full-size two foot by

950
00:43:57,220 --> 00:43:53,420
three foot poster of the movie house at

951
00:43:58,990 --> 00:43:57,230
the end of the drive and it gets to hang

952
00:44:01,000 --> 00:43:59,000
out here and hang out and party to be

953
00:44:03,610 --> 00:44:01,010
adoration when we're not doing the

954
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:03,620
investigation as well which means booze

955
00:44:12,010 --> 00:44:05,690
and drinks if you like as long as you're

956
00:44:15,340 --> 00:44:12,020
over 21 well no one just foul and that's

957
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:15,350
it that's a pretty open house Dom that's

958
00:44:23,170 --> 00:44:20,930
th e om AM house calm and the fact that

959
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:23,180
we've got that house again is amazing

960
00:44:28,270 --> 00:44:25,490
that place is off the charts in two

961
00:44:31,630 --> 00:44:28,280
houses in one night for seven hours and

962
00:44:33,970 --> 00:44:31,640
two seances and then and the team if you

963
00:44:35,710 --> 00:44:33,980
guys need equipment we have equipment we

964
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:35,720
have a full train came and people are

965
00:44:40,750 --> 00:44:38,210
very friendly I make sure that everybody

966
00:44:43,030 --> 00:44:40,760
everybody that comes here novice to the

967
00:44:45,220 --> 00:44:43,040
expert gets their balls busted right

968
00:44:47,050 --> 00:44:45,230
down to the number one that you're all

969
00:44:49,330 --> 00:44:47,060
on the same level playing field when you

970
00:44:51,370 --> 00:44:49,340
come in here nobody smarter than anybody

971
00:44:53,020 --> 00:44:51,380
else and everybody's going to be very

972
00:44:55,060 --> 00:44:53,030
cordial and polite to everybody

973
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:55,070
the smartest tip is to the dumbest I

974
00:44:59,080 --> 00:44:57,050
want everybody to get along and to learn

975
00:45:00,520 --> 00:44:59,090
that you're all in my house and you're

976
00:45:02,710 --> 00:45:00,530
all gonna figure out that it's the

977
00:45:04,450 --> 00:45:02,720
reality of the paranormal is unlike what

978
00:45:06,940 --> 00:45:04,460
you've ever experienced before because

979
00:45:09,130 --> 00:45:06,950
when you come here you feel it when you

980
00:45:12,130 --> 00:45:09,140
walk in the house right off the bat and

981
00:45:13,780 --> 00:45:12,140
I say to people don't be afraid but just

982
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:13,790
open your mind because it's different

983
00:45:18,339 --> 00:45:15,530
than other places you've ever been to

984
00:45:20,290 --> 00:45:18,349
this place is highly charged and it's a

985
00:45:21,609 --> 00:45:20,300
unique environment so that I want

986
00:45:24,010 --> 00:45:21,619
everybody to feel like they can

987
00:45:26,109 --> 00:45:24,020
understand that nobody's better than

988
00:45:27,820 --> 00:45:26,119
anybody else when they come in on denim

989
00:45:30,790 --> 00:45:27,830
and I said look you have any questions

990
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:30,800
ask us and anybody else around you if

991
00:45:34,359 --> 00:45:32,450
you have any questions were happy to

992
00:45:37,290 --> 00:45:34,369
help it's all about learning and

993
00:45:40,359 --> 00:45:37,300
breaking down walls and fears and

994
00:45:42,310 --> 00:45:40,369
behaviors that are not conducive to

995
00:45:47,140 --> 00:45:42,320
learning and accepting the truth about

996
00:45:49,990 --> 00:45:47,150
the paranormal for all you people out

997
00:45:53,140 --> 00:45:50,000
there especially in the West Coast I

998
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:53,150
mean that does sound amazing I mean that

999
00:45:57,849 --> 00:45:56,450
honestly like I said I I've never been

1000
00:46:01,150 --> 00:45:57,859
west of the Mississippi but if we ever

1001
00:46:02,950 --> 00:46:01,160
make our way out to California for Nia

1002
00:46:03,550 --> 00:46:02,960
you know we're gonna be bringing your oh

1003
00:46:06,849 --> 00:46:03,560
definitely

1004
00:46:08,950 --> 00:46:06,859
oh you're more than welcome I'm telling

1005
00:46:10,660 --> 00:46:08,960
you it's I can't get to the house next

1006
00:46:12,130 --> 00:46:10,670
door but I can certainly get you guys to

1007
00:46:14,349 --> 00:46:12,140
come in here and see it to yourself

1008
00:46:16,570 --> 00:46:14,359
without the team but the cameras and

1009
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:16,580
stuff we're in the house anyways here so

1010
00:46:21,190 --> 00:46:18,410
those will be running and you can see

1011
00:46:23,980 --> 00:46:21,200
what's going on on the my monitor in my

1012
00:46:26,050 --> 00:46:23,990
office and it's like two got just two

1013
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:26,060
said yes and if you don't believe it

1014
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:27,530
let's go downstairs and see it for

1015
00:46:32,890 --> 00:46:30,530
yourselves I'm video and they go oh my

1016
00:46:34,660 --> 00:46:32,900
god I said it did say yep there isn't it

1017
00:46:39,190 --> 00:46:34,670
oh my god so they said yep there it is

1018
00:46:41,050 --> 00:46:39,200
on the videos like that's yep see that's

1019
00:46:43,270 --> 00:46:41,060
awesome yeah I thought the whole place

1020
00:46:47,500 --> 00:46:43,280
has got cameras you can record

1021
00:46:49,450 --> 00:46:47,510
everything you got the history yet the

1022
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:49,460
Native American history which goes way

1023
00:46:55,210 --> 00:46:52,130
back you got the sharing Pete and all

1024
00:47:00,400 --> 00:46:55,220
that history you had the Jew anomalies

1025
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:00,410
you got the all the the history of

1026
00:47:06,770 --> 00:47:02,570
everyone else who's been out there and

1027
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:11,850
david has a like a virtual tour I've

1028
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:14,050
said we've seen before and he chose all

1029
00:47:18,390 --> 00:47:16,450
his photos of these amazing anomalies

1030
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:18,400
again the kind of stuff that when you

1031
00:47:23,460 --> 00:47:19,570
look at him

1032
00:47:25,530 --> 00:47:23,470
you know for those who who who you know

1033
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:25,540
are into the paranormal on softer when

1034
00:47:30,180 --> 00:47:28,810
you look at these photos they are the

1035
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:30,190
kind of folders you would expect to see

1036
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:32,530
the true anomalous activity oh

1037
00:47:37,350 --> 00:47:35,530
definitely and yeah I think they're

1038
00:47:39,870 --> 00:47:37,360
they're awesome and for you folks in

1039
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:39,880
chat um all you have to do is go to

1040
00:47:45,270 --> 00:47:42,850
youtube and type in David omen and you

1041
00:47:47,910 --> 00:47:45,280
will come across his channel he has some

1042
00:47:49,890 --> 00:47:47,920
amazing and awesome videos on his

1043
00:47:52,050 --> 00:47:49,900
channel you will not be disappointed

1044
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:52,060
when you go and view his channel or his

1045
00:48:00,180 --> 00:47:57,010
website not a piece of them that's om

1046
00:48:01,490 --> 00:48:00,190
aan by the way guys David omen like a

1047
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:01,500
good omen

1048
00:48:11,070 --> 00:48:05,890
yes so let's see we got a few minutes

1049
00:48:14,430 --> 00:48:11,080
left well you do you uh um you believe

1050
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:14,440
there's an awakening going up on what

1051
00:48:21,720 --> 00:48:19,450
way well in in we asked our our guests

1052
00:48:24,750 --> 00:48:21,730
they come on to show this question and I

1053
00:48:26,250 --> 00:48:24,760
if I remember it we didn't get that we

1054
00:48:37,430 --> 00:48:26,260
didn't get to that last and we had your

1055
00:48:40,740 --> 00:48:37,440
on I guess a spiritual awakening

1056
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:40,750
realizing that they are a spiritual

1057
00:48:45,570 --> 00:48:43,930
being having a human experience instead

1058
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:45,580
of a human being having a spiritual

1059
00:48:51,270 --> 00:48:48,570
experience I guess I'm just waking up to

1060
00:48:53,940 --> 00:48:51,280
the world around the world around them I

1061
00:48:57,570 --> 00:48:53,950
think that that's been the case to some

1062
00:48:59,700 --> 00:48:57,580
time I just think that it's been as you

1063
00:49:01,770 --> 00:48:59,710
say was under wraps in the seventies and

1064
00:49:04,020 --> 00:49:01,780
it was always there but it was always

1065
00:49:06,900 --> 00:49:04,030
the counterculture was into that in this

1066
00:49:08,550 --> 00:49:06,910
the hippie movement of the 60s you know

1067
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:08,560
and there's always been interest it's

1068
00:49:12,780 --> 00:49:11,050
always been kind of way too subdued but

1069
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:12,790
now what's happened has and I'll be

1070
00:49:18,210 --> 00:49:14,770
frank and honest with you it's become

1071
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:18,220
commercialized and because of that fact

1072
00:49:23,220 --> 00:49:19,810
once it became

1073
00:49:24,750 --> 00:49:23,230
mosha lies that it's now like actually I

1074
00:49:26,670 --> 00:49:24,760
hate to say it it's kind of like what

1075
00:49:28,140 --> 00:49:26,680
the door said about their music it's

1076
00:49:29,670 --> 00:49:28,150
going to become commercialized and I

1077
00:49:31,590 --> 00:49:29,680
don't want to have to tap and have the

1078
00:49:33,390 --> 00:49:31,600
past and haven't sucked into it and

1079
00:49:37,170 --> 00:49:33,400
that's what's kind of happened it's

1080
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:37,180
become on us in a sense a emotionalized

1081
00:49:41,700 --> 00:49:39,490
commodity and that's why you know you

1082
00:49:44,070 --> 00:49:41,710
see them son the spirit boxes and the

1083
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:44,080
argument and then that all these TV

1084
00:49:48,030 --> 00:49:46,330
shows about it you know it's become with

1085
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:48,040
mainstream that's what I'm saying to you

1086
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:49,690
that's why I think this happened so a

1087
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:51,130
lot of other people have been able to

1088
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:53,530
openly come out of the closet come out

1089
00:49:57,540 --> 00:49:55,450
in the open and say I'm very much in

1090
00:49:59,640 --> 00:49:57,550
belief of the paranormal I'm very much

1091
00:50:01,560 --> 00:49:59,650
and belief in this and with the internet

1092
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:01,570
it's also allowed more people to feed

1093
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:03,970
them to express themselves both good and

1094
00:50:09,780 --> 00:50:06,610
bad and also for people to make money on

1095
00:50:12,090 --> 00:50:09,790
it as well and I thought about showing

1096
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:12,100
the arduous and the devices and the

1097
00:50:16,140 --> 00:50:14,530
different you know his Mo's and gadgets

1098
00:50:18,090 --> 00:50:16,150
thee as I like to call them the

1099
00:50:19,730 --> 00:50:18,100
shortcuts to the paranormal which are

1100
00:50:24,300 --> 00:50:19,740
really not anything more than

1101
00:50:27,780 --> 00:50:24,310
programmable scaling devices a lot of

1102
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:27,790
them a lot of stuff out there I am very

1103
00:50:30,990 --> 00:50:29,170
skeptical for you

1104
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:31,000
well we both are and you have to be like

1105
00:50:36,090 --> 00:50:33,130
they come up all these different apps I

1106
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:36,100
read about it all the time and most of

1107
00:50:39,720 --> 00:50:38,650
all these apps don't work and really and

1108
00:50:41,550 --> 00:50:39,730
they claim that the ones don't really

1109
00:50:42,980 --> 00:50:41,560
good ones they chart you're gonna pay an

1110
00:50:48,240 --> 00:50:42,990
arm and a leg for a really good app

1111
00:50:51,210 --> 00:50:48,250
great and then end up with streaming

1112
00:50:53,580 --> 00:50:51,220
from you know talk video that you

1113
00:50:55,350 --> 00:50:53,590
recognize okay we the way we do it when

1114
00:50:58,710 --> 00:50:55,360
we do investigations especially if we

1115
00:51:00,270 --> 00:50:58,720
use our our sb7 ghost box and we use a

1116
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:00,280
digital tape recorder and you could be

1117
00:51:07,700 --> 00:51:03,130
recorder yeah that's well we won't do

1118
00:51:11,100 --> 00:51:07,710
the the apps and when we do that this

1119
00:51:12,270 --> 00:51:11,110
ghost box of it we have criteria you

1120
00:51:14,340 --> 00:51:12,280
know we want to hear more than two

1121
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:14,350
syllables yeah we want to hear it in the

1122
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:16,570
same place we want to hear intelligent

1123
00:51:21,900 --> 00:51:19,810
answers afterwards not like 45 seconds

1124
00:51:23,790 --> 00:51:21,910
afterwards or not halfway through the

1125
00:51:25,260 --> 00:51:23,800
question we're asking right or like you

1126
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:25,270
know you tell us your name and like

1127
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:27,850
Steve comes through okay fine

1128
00:51:30,930 --> 00:51:29,650
a name came through but they also to

1129
00:51:33,420 --> 00:51:30,940
realize that it's scanning radio

1130
00:51:37,319 --> 00:51:33,430
frequencies yeah

1131
00:51:39,030 --> 00:51:37,329
syllable I mean you got I mean yes and

1132
00:51:41,460 --> 00:51:39,040
the answer could be one civil right but

1133
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:41,470
you also gotta be you gotta you gotta

1134
00:51:45,569 --> 00:51:43,170
have a healthy dose of skeptics

1135
00:51:48,059 --> 00:51:45,579
skepticism to to balance out otherwise

1136
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:48,069
everything becomes pickerel right right

1137
00:51:51,720 --> 00:51:49,930
and you've got to repeat the same

1138
00:51:53,190 --> 00:51:51,730
questions over and over again to make

1139
00:51:54,950 --> 00:51:53,200
sure that the responses that you're

1140
00:51:59,190 --> 00:51:54,960
getting about ecology

1141
00:52:00,599 --> 00:51:59,200
well we have EVPs EVP sessions like we

1142
00:52:02,940 --> 00:52:00,609
do with Chris Fleming we have the

1143
00:52:04,710 --> 00:52:02,950
recorder we had a video person there

1144
00:52:07,589 --> 00:52:04,720
Chris would take the question ask the

1145
00:52:09,420 --> 00:52:07,599
question wait 30 seconds and playback

1146
00:52:12,240 --> 00:52:09,430
the response immediately and it's all

1147
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:12,250
being recorded firsthand and that way

1148
00:52:16,710 --> 00:52:14,650
it's not a thanks box instead Fox and

1149
00:52:18,750 --> 00:52:16,720
whatever his response is we heard the

1150
00:52:20,910 --> 00:52:18,760
responses coming back from one time's it

1151
00:52:23,430 --> 00:52:20,920
after you and die and get the hell out

1152
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:23,440
and this woman said oh my god what do

1153
00:52:28,799 --> 00:52:25,210
they need I said this is a game and I

1154
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:28,809
said no they just don't press like this

1155
00:52:32,220 --> 00:52:30,970
they know Kristin don't like them but

1156
00:52:34,170 --> 00:52:32,230
it's not like you're hanging it through

1157
00:52:36,030 --> 00:52:34,180
a frank's box giving the boys twisted

1158
00:52:37,799 --> 00:52:36,040
through like hello like you heard

1159
00:52:40,589 --> 00:52:37,809
they're just that's just a guy's voice

1160
00:52:42,809 --> 00:52:40,599
speaking on on the back you can hear it

1161
00:52:45,420 --> 00:52:42,819
on the untwisted quality be on their

1162
00:52:47,010 --> 00:52:45,430
little tape recorder and I say those are

1163
00:52:49,260 --> 00:52:47,020
the things that are like crazy like we

1164
00:52:51,030 --> 00:52:49,270
have upstairs where Steve is upstairs

1165
00:52:53,250 --> 00:52:51,040
getting some food last year in August

1166
00:52:57,299 --> 00:52:53,260
during an investigation he's by himself

1167
00:53:00,270 --> 00:52:57,309
and the Spirit said oh yeah and Steve

1168
00:53:03,450 --> 00:53:00,280
heard it and Steve goes David who's

1169
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:03,460
Davis who's that because David and we've

1170
00:53:06,990 --> 00:53:05,170
listened to the recording back on this

1171
00:53:09,720 --> 00:53:07,000
on the closed-circuit television camera

1172
00:53:11,789 --> 00:53:09,730
and there's a couple of EVPs they're

1173
00:53:13,770 --> 00:53:11,799
talking that he didn't hear at the time

1174
00:53:15,450 --> 00:53:13,780
that are also talking before that's like

1175
00:53:18,870 --> 00:53:15,460
oh yeah he's talking before he said how

1176
00:53:20,780 --> 00:53:18,880
he asked me because listen to books boys

1177
00:53:24,599 --> 00:53:20,790
just say uh-huh

1178
00:53:27,089 --> 00:53:24,609
hmm good cause like Steve he was talking

1179
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:27,099
before that son of a [\h__\h] shoot in here

1180
00:53:32,069 --> 00:53:30,490
because I heard oh yeah so that's the

1181
00:53:34,020 --> 00:53:32,079
kind of stuff that I'm talking about I

1182
00:53:36,390 --> 00:53:34,030
mean what do you mean a minute you want

1183
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:36,400
to play skeptic and devil's advocate I'm

1184
00:53:40,380 --> 00:53:38,650
gonna say that thanks boxes those

1185
00:53:42,210 --> 00:53:40,390
scanners no matter how many times you

1186
00:53:43,770 --> 00:53:42,220
ask the same question you're not getting

1187
00:53:45,809 --> 00:53:43,780
the spirit's voice in the how many times

1188
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:45,819
what tell me it is you're hanging a scan

1189
00:53:48,530 --> 00:53:46,530
voice

1190
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:48,540
touchdown radio frequency transmission

1191
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:52,050
has been equalizing burglarized in that

1192
00:54:09,340 --> 00:53:57,330
sense there's no doubt that the just the

1193
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:41,490
[Music]

1194
00:55:01,040 --> 00:54:58,720
[Applause]